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Featured Poll:  Lots of heroic deeds & thoughts flying about in LOTM. No doubt there are at least several heroes in the film. Who is the ONE true hero? The MOST heroic of all?

Yes, a sexist poll ... no women listed!
 
 
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Visit Are You Registered? Are You Registered?
Lurking is fine; but participation makes a board go! Register to enable your ability to post as well as to enjoy the other features of the Mohican Board!
 
New Posts The Weekly Update ... !
Or, is it semi-weekly? No matter - regular updates on the web site comings & goings. Anyone can reply here; just keep it related - somewhat - to the material in the Weekly Update ... The Sachem Speaks! :)
50 612 Today
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Subject: Panhandling Time Again!
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Old Posts The Towne Crier's Square
Forum Announcements! - Make general announcements, pertinent to the scope of this Board, in this forum.
74 698 July 17 2010
8:53:56 PM
by: Seamus Jump to Last Post
Subject: Sinking of the Radeau (Land Tortoise)
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Old Posts The New Deal!
Confused with this new set-up? So were we! Really, though, it's quite easy and gives you much more control then in our old format. You'll find some tips for using this forum here, plus, you can utilize this area for "practice" posts. Play! Test posts & forum-related only [How do I ...?]! Try out our forums!
99 743 January 01 2010
11:01:38 AM
by: richfed Jump to Last Topic
Subject: Private Messages Security
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Collapse This Category LAST OF THE MOHICANS    
Old Posts The Last of the Mohicans ...
Hey, that's what we're here for, right? Sort of? Anyway, all things Mohican are fair game here. The "making of," the cast, the locations ... Remember, 6 degrees! F&I War and JFC specific material have their own forums, just below. LOTM-related only!
668 10767 August 23 2010
8:34:30 PM
by: Seamus Jump to Last Edited Topic
Subject: The Last Of The Mohicans Outdoor Drama
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Old Posts The LOTM Locations
"... One of the first things to strike me [about LOTM] was the gorgeous scenery permeating the film throughout. It prompted me to follow its often arduous trail and see to where it led. Not too surprisingly, it brought me to some of the most beautiful places in western North Carolina ..." That from our web site's home page. Surely, it deserves a forum here! The Locations, that is. Posts specific to film locations can be entered here!
26 218 June 15 2010
8:32:42 PM
by: IWLFNDU Jump to Last Topic
Subject: Blue Ridge Parkway's 75th Anniversary
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Old Posts Cooper's Corner
Anyone who utilizes this site - and who enjoyed the film - owes it all, in the beginning, to one James Fenimore Cooper! Posts specific to the novel - or any of "The Leatherstocking Tales" - ought to be made in this forum ...
25 175 October 09 2009
9:15:46 PM
by: susquesus Jump to Last Post
Subject: The Spy
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Visit The James Fenimore Cooper Society The James Fenimore Cooper Society
Dedicated to the man who started it all ... James Fenimore Cooper!
 
Collapse This Category COLONIAL TIMES    
Old Posts Colonial Consciousness
NEW! People and places; clothing and food; social life and political rhetoric ... If it happened during the American Colonial period and you want to discuss it - right on through the Revolution - this is the place.
42 368 July 23 2010
8:36:42 PM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last Post
Subject: 18th century ship  found at WTC, ....
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Old Posts The French & Indian War
Sure ... this overlaps with subject matter from "The Last of the Mohicans" forum ... that's ok ... no strictly defined lines here. But, for "hardcore" F&I War material, and listings of events, etc., consider posting here!
172 1886 August 23 2010
09:51:45 AM
by: SgtMunro Jump to Last Edited Topic
Subject: Crown Point
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Old Posts The Muster
A reenactor's area. A place to discuss events, methods, wares, accoutrements, and whatever else reenactors discuss ... as they relate to Colonial times ... Bring history to life!
187 2023 July 27 2010
9:03:00 PM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last Post
Subject: Ogdensburg - La Prsentation
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Visit New York's Independence Trail New York's Independence Trail
Tour the French & Indian War Sites [and more!] within New York State - after all, that is where "The Last of the Mohicans" really takes place!
 
Collapse This Category The GREAT MOHICAN GATHERINGS    
Old Posts The Next Great Advent'cha! Gathering X - 2012
GATHERING 2010 NOW HISTORY! Pertinent pre-Gathering information, thoughts, and comments to be posted here!
3 37 August 17 2010
7:21:00 PM
by: Kaylynn44 Jump to Last Post
Subject: Gathering 2012 Auction Items
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Old Posts Gathering Gossip & Ganders [?]
Discuss anything about the past 9 Great Mohican Gatherings ... From 1998 - 2010! Or, take it into the future ...
139 1432 July 08 2010
6:19:13 PM
by: winglo Jump to Last Post
Subject: Gathering 2010 Quotes to Remember
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Old Posts Adorable Ariel's Auction Area
It's been 6 years now; six years of Mohican Gatherers helping a little one not nearly so fortunate as any of us. Why her? Why Ariel? We don't know. She just fell into our laps and became, in a way, our beautiful mascot. Help us help her! No eyes ...
34 244 June 23 2010
11:45:16 AM
by: Jayne Jump to Last Post
Subject: 2010 Auction for Ariel
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Visit Ariel's Little Corner of Mohicanland Ariel's Little Corner of Mohicanland
Maybe, you'll be able to understand why ...
 
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New Posts Thought For The Day
Started by the Huggy Merchant after Gathering III, the tradition has slipped away, but why? And, why leave it all up to Huggy? RULE: One "thought" per day - replies allowed! If someone beats you to it, use yours the following day, OK? Thoughts ...
12 22 Yesterday
09:13:17 AM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last New Topic
Subject: Wednesday September 1, 2010, ...
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Old Posts The Old WWW Board Archives
Links & discussion on anything from the "old" days! ... that's "ANYTHING"! Find a particularly interesting or unique thread while browsing the Old Board? Post a link to it here ... be descriptive in your title ... maybe some thoughts can be rekindled!
12 40 May 17 2006
07:47:22 AM
by: Seamus Jump to Last Post
Subject: On the Trail of the Last of the Mohicans - Dec., '97
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Old Posts Bunkhouse Banter!
Yep ... this has always been a community. Someone here having a birthday, anniversary, or something else of a personal nature you'd like to embarrass them with? "Just dropped in to see how you boys is doin'"? Say "hello" & chat right here! When you don't know where else to post it, post it here ...
533 6967 August 22 2010
10:15:56 PM
by: shadawick Jump to Last Post
Subject: George Phillips, ...
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Old Posts Bumppo's Blogging Barn
A place for diary-like blogging. Anything goes within the limits imposed by this community - i.e. no personal insults toward other members, no profanity, no explicit sexual material. Make Hawkeye proud!!

2 22 November 19 2009
07:42:20 AM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last Post
Subject: Hellooo - anybody home??? ...
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Collapse This Category BUMPPIN' 'ROUND BUMPPO'S    
Old Posts The Tales MacWilliam ...
The continuing frontier saga of Many Flags, Magdalena, cousins Malcolm and Seamus, Three Tales, Davey Gunn, Uncle Angus, and more. Original historical fiction finds its way back to the Mohicanland Frontier! Pax Aye!


33 235 January 05 2008
9:46:58 PM
by: Seamus Jump to Last Post
Subject: Feb. 27, 2000, the Chronicles began
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Old Posts In The Tavern ... Wenches, Wahoos, and Girty!
For those of you - left behind, or who may someday return to the Tavern from the wilderness - who enjoyed this kind of thing, we re-open Bumppo's Tavern on the Frontier ... role play; fan fiction; historical fiction; whatever you want to call it, do it ... at Bumppo's! :) Hoist a tankard of ale, move closer to the fire, and listen to a story well-told.
72 190 July 12 2010
10:24:18 AM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last Topic
Subject: A compulsive liar, ...
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Old Posts The LOTM Fan Fiction Forum
Up above, In The Tavern, we have more "Mohicanland Character" role playing. This new area is earmarked for direct LOTM role-playing/fan fiction. Rewrite the story as YOU see fit. Have fun! [Just keep it clean!] This forum is now password protected. If you'd like to post in this forum, please send us an e-mail for the password.
8 1034 June 12 2010
8:25:07 PM
by: Six_Braids Jump to Last Topic
Subject: jlnklnkjhk
 
Collapse This Category OFF THE BEATEN TRAIL    
Old Posts Inside the Longhouse
Indigenous culture, history, events, films ... you name it! Non-specific to "The Last of the Mohicans," discuss anything Native ... be that the American Indian, or any other of the Native peoples of the World.
90 486 July 20 2010
7:42:54 PM
by: Gadget Girl Jump to Last Post
Subject: Good news for a change, ...
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Old Posts Movies, Movies, More Movies! Any Movies!
Seems there's always a yearning to discuss a film. Here's the place. Any film you'd care to talk about. Of course, many are within Six Degrees and can therefore be "legally" discussed in "The Last of the Mohicans" forum. YOU decide!
319 5020 August 01 2010
08:00:57 AM
by: richfed Jump to Last Post
Subject: Nine
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Old Posts Mohicanland's Recommended Reading
Books! Last of the Mohicans is a book ... it all started with a book! Post reviews of, and discuss, your favorite books - on any topic - here in this forum. Don't forget, JFC has his own forum up above - "Cooper's Corner".
92 543 August 19 2010
2:18:47 PM
by: James N. Jump to Last Edited Topic
Subject: New Book on a "Forgotten" Taboo Subject
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Old Posts Historical Sites!
Open the door to the wonders unveiled by historical preservation. Reviews, recommendations, what to see/what to avoid, maps, photos ... Been there? Help fellow Mohicanites enjoy your experience, here in the Americas, or abroad in Europe, Asia, Africa, & Australia.
71 641 April 07 2010
09:33:14 AM
by: Fitzhugh Williams Jump to Last Post
Subject: Finally....a new Director at Ticongeroga
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Old Posts Into The Wilderness ...
Or, my private adventure in Mohicanland [or ANYWHERE!]. Historically-oriented tales, or not. Show & tell! For the fun of it! What I did on my summer vacation! You can ask for a Photo Album to go along with your tale, if you wish.
34 270 August 13 2009
9:12:50 PM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last Post
Subject: Calling All Wilderness Women!
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Collapse This Category The LIGHT IN THE FOREST    
New Posts In the News ...
By popular demand! Place to post articles & information of interest that are currently In the News - for added comment & discussion, not necessarily debate. If it's In the News, it can be here, too!
386 2118 August 29 2010
12:47:21 PM
by: richfed Jump to Last New Post
Subject: About New Orleans ...
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Old Posts The Meaning of Life ...
... or, is the World really round? The Philosophy Phorum ... for great thoughts & thinkers.
60 827 July 28 2010
12:59:45 PM
by: Seamus Jump to Last Post
Subject: EGADS!!!!! They are still at it!
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Old Posts The Lion's Den ... International & Political Debate
Open forum for exploration of political & social issues affecting the World. This area of the Mohican Board may not be for everybody! Squeamish need not apply! Please, mind your manners! State your opinions, argue your viewpoint, but respect the opposition - and, most importantly, keep the discussion here! Happy debating!
224 2869 August 17 2010
8:15:08 PM
by: winglo Jump to Last Post
Subject: Obama versus Wilson versus FDR
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Visit Against All Odds Against All Odds
4 key conflicts in American History!
 
Old Posts Battle of the Little Bighorn - 1876
A hot, dusty Sunday ... a meandering river in a quiet valley ... two cultures clash in one of the most famous battles in history, Custer's Last Stand!
11 165 January 24 2010
8:03:39 PM
by: James N. Jump to Last Post
Subject: Best Books on Little Bighorn
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Old Posts Gettysburg ... Pickett's Charge - 1863
More American soldiers died in this battle than in any other; more than in some entire wars. Pennsylvania farmland turned red with one of the most gallant, yet ill-advised, "charges" of recorded history. Full of pagentry, Pickett's Charge ended in disaster for the southern Confederacy ... their High Tide.
5 45 July 14 2008
03:26:02 AM
by: caitlin Jump to Last Post
Subject: 145th Anniversary Reenactment
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Old Posts The Alamo - 1836
An army of conscripts led by a ruthless dictator. A rabble of land grabbers, riff raff, and slave traders holed up in a crumbling Spanish mission. Who were the good guys? Heroism abounds during these 13 days to glory.
47 434 May 15 2010
10:45:09 AM
by: richfed Jump to Last Post
Subject: New Alamo Artwork
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Old Posts Lexington Green - 1775
From the French & Indian War to this ... The stillness of a cool & damp pre-dawn April morning is broken by the sound of approaching fifes & drums. The cream of the British Army faces off with colonial militia in what turned out to be little more than a skirmish. It resulted in "the shot heard 'round the world," and indeed, the world would never again be the same. A Nation is born.
8 46 April 19 2009
8:23:46 PM
by: Monadnock Guide Jump to Last Post
Subject: April 19 --- This Date In History
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Old Posts British Colonial Warfare and Campaigns
British expansionism has, for centuries, been at the heart of the landscape of the world. Nary a continent was untouched. In particular, the 19th Century was a period of warfare, intrigue, and political maneuver. All of this is the subject of this forum - with the exceptions of the North American French & Indian War and the opening shots of the American Revolution - both of which have designated forums of their own.
7 49 February 14 2005
05:20:30 AM
by: Grenadier Jump to Last Post
Subject: The Zulu War of 1879 (Opening Shots)
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Old Posts Any Other Military Encounters - 1492 - Present
and beyond! ... from the annals of American History! From the shores of San Salvador to the rugged Afghanistan terrain ... cover the stuff we didn't on the "Against All Odds" Web Site! [NOTE: F&I War-related material should be posted above ... Thanks!] Current military events acceptable ...

* Please confine discussion to the EVENTS. Posts dealing with the POLITICS should be made in "The Lions Den" forum.
23 200 June 08 2010
2:54:31 PM
by: Wilderness Woman Jump to Last Post
Subject: Normandy, - lest we forget, ...
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Visit 3rd Pennsylvania Reg't of Foot, "The Augusta Regiment", Burd's Co'y 3rd Pennsylvania Reg't of Foot, "The Augusta Regiment", Burd's Co'y
The 3rd Battalion Pennsylvania Regiment Regiment of Foot, "The Augusta Regiment", was originally formed to build and garrison Ft. Augusta at the forks of the Susquehanna River at the site of the old Indian town of Shamokin, today known as Sunbury, Pennsylvania.
 
Visit Chemung Valley Living History Center Chemung Valley Living History Center
Our own Wilderness Woman's outfit helps to bring this encounter with the Iroquois in upstate New York to life! ... Supporting and promoting Newtown Battlefield State Park.
 
Visit The Feldjäger Corps Website The Feldjäger Corps Website
Dressed in green & recruited from huntsmen, game-keepers, foresters & hussars of the German principality of Hesse-Cassel, the jägers were the elite marksmen of the British army during the American rebellion.
 
Visit Muskets of the Crown: Montgomery's Highlanders Muskets of the Crown: Montgomery's Highlanders
The 77th Regiment of Foot
 
Visit Primitive Artisans Primitive Artisans
The French Trader's stomping grounds! Good trekking info & links, PLUS quality items for sale, including unique [LOTM-themed] wampum goods. Trade with the French Trader!
 
Visit Rumping Productions ... Living History Rumping Productions ... Living History
Step back in time with Living History Reenactors, Mike and Nancy Rumping. The Rumpings appear as Simon and Betsy Kenton and also as Squire and Jane Boone. The Rumpings are master storytellers who have been involved in reenacting and living history for over 30 years. Their live performances have been seen throughout the mid-west at living history events, museums, and as the main event at meetings, schools, libraries, and historical and genealogical societies
 
Visit Sarah's & Chauncey's 18th Century Living History Sarah's & Chauncey's 18th Century Living History
The telling of stories of reenacting the 18th century and sharing of knowledge and experiences learned through it; highlighting real-life history of the 18th century and some of the few remaining beautiful, historic sites that are left from that time.
 
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Visit Apocalypto Apocalypto
Hollywood may be dismissing Mel Gibson, but luckily he has yet to dismiss us! This is another of those epics we all love. Filmed in Mexico, we get a rare tale about the Mayans. Looks good! Release date December 8, 2006!
 
Visit The New World The New World
Epic Jamestown tale ... filmed on location in Virginia ... John Smith and Pocahontas! Scheduled for a November, 2005 premiere. Cast includes: Colin Farrell, Christopher Plummer, Christian Bale, August Schellenberg, Wes Studi, David Thewlis, Yorick van Wageningen, Q'orianka Kilcher, Will Wallace ... promises to be a good one!
DVD ON-SALE MAY 9, 2006!
 
Visit The Passion of the Christ The Passion of the Christ
Mel Gibson's apparent epic spectacle on the last 12 hours of Christ's life is now set for a February 25, 2004 release. It looks to be a film-making milestone!
 
Visit Unbound Captives Unbound Captives
As described - ever so briefly - in our exclusive interview, this is Madeleine Stowe's baby! Set for production late 2009, the frontier tale stars Hugh Jackman, Rachel Weisz, and Robert Pattinson.
 
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