Posted by Scotto on July 13, 1998 at 19:27:47:
In Reply to: Re: Uncas vs. Magua posted by Marcia on June 14, 1998 at 20:17:00:
: Joy wrote:
: : The climatic cliff battle has always been rather disappointing to me. Throughout the movie, we see Uncas to be an able quick fighter and then he is sooo outmatched by Magua. I think it would have played better if Uncas got in a few shots before going down. Granted, he was probably a bit worn out from the climb and whacking through a line of Hurons to get to Magua. But still, he was so determined, I think he would have fought better.
: Joy, I think this is a very interesting observation, and on consideration, I agree with you. I would have liked Uncas to land at least one good blow/slash/shot/punch/kick/bite/pinch ...SOMETHING...on Magua before being dispatched to the council fire of his people.
: And Joy wrote:
: : And another thing - he made his intent clear to Ching. to go after Alice - why wasn't his father right on his heels? If I recall correctly, Nathaniel and Cora were almost out of the village - the Hurons were ignoring them because they were too pumped about roasting poor Duncan. I would think that Ching would have followed his son to help him out. Any thoughts??
: Well, Chingachgook & Hawkeye DID race after him, but you bring up a good point...how come they ended up so FAR behind him? Did he use some secret shortcut? And if so, why didn't dad/bro use it, too? Now I'm gonna wonder what took them so long!! Where is Le Longue Carabine when you need him??? (A question I've asked MYSELF many times over the last few years...hehehe!)
You raise a good point, Joy, about the cliff fight. True, Magua DID take Uncas out rather quickly. But Chingachcook did likewise to Magua a few minutes later. It was only fitting! I somewhat agree with both of you, about wanting to see more fighting before it ended. But that's a minor point to me. A drawn-out battle for the hand of Alice, or to avenge Uncas, would have been the usual way to do things.
And Joy, I disagree with you about the cliff scene being disappointing. To me, it was the saddest--but the highest--point in the movie. The ultimate climax. To KNOW that you are outnumbered... yet you try anyway, to save the one you love... only to realize that you failed, and you die... and to be so moved by that sacrifice, that you choose to die with your would-be rescuer... how can that be disappointing?
Marcia, I agree with you about why Uncas felt he had to go ahead, without his brother and father--thereby increasing his chances for a successful rescue. I have my own ideas about that--but I'd like to hear other opinions.
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