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Posted by Elaine on July 07, 2000 at 22:27:58:

In Reply to: Re: Voice of a Sinner posted by Bill R on July 07, 2000 at 20:53:11:

: Well Ilse, I can see you worked hard on that post. And I am sure you did so with thought and a spirit of conciliation. However, my knuckles may drag on the ground, but I do know how to read, and those earlier posts had agenda in them and a man, bad: women, good tone to them. Otherwise, what could the "my people" statement have meant? But as YOU suggested, I will give it a rest. A long rest.

: bill

: : : Fine. I've been here before. Okay to bash men, but don't let them stand up for themselves.

: : : I understand. Completely.

: : HUH??? I don't understand.... anything .... anymore ... I have just been working on my message for a f****g 2 hours, trying to avoid offending/insulting????? And THIS is what i get?

: : Yeah, you know I have been here before too. Fine.

Dear Bill & Ilse,

I was in the middle of a reply to this thread (which was taking a bit longer than it should have but with a VERY much awake baby, it could not be helped) when I went back to reread earlier comments ... now, I can't very well post that before first saying something to this.

Ilse, I'm sorry. I believe you got caught in a crossfire of emotion ... unduly so, unintended, I'm sure. I know you pretty well & know you did indeed take time to write in a non-offensive manner. Thank you ... I also know you as one who appreciates a good debate & discussions involving differing viewpoints. This ought to be one of those discussions.

Bill, I also understand how you read the original posts & why you took issue with certain aspects. I was replying to basically agree with your comments. However, the points of disagreement were not made by Ilse ... She sought to carry the discussion forward & read Nightsky's message differently than you or I did ... regrettably, we are now here.

Please - we've all been here before. If ever we are to use this board for good healthy debate, it must be now.

Think about this, please ...

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