Posted by Doc M on August 23, 2000 at 14:43:25:
In Reply to: Re: Dana posted by GnomeDome on August 23, 2000 at 14:32:03:
: : : :
: : : : While my beloved alter Doc M sleeps it off under the pool
: : : : table at Bumppo's, after being unceremoniously being
: : : : ejected from the House of HooHa, I'd love to get in
: : : : on this thread since I missed it the last time. I am
: : : : more drawn to certain concepts of Eastern religious
: : : : thought. I am NO expert, having just begun reading
: : : : and thinking seriously on the subject. Something I
: : : : came across recently fits in perfectly here, I
: : : : think. Truth vs Goodness according to Buddhist thought:
: : : : 1. Do not take anything as true under any condition
: : : : 2. Understand what is good, rather than what is true
: : : : 3) Use your own judgement. Scripture is only an aid to
: : : : thinking.
: : : : 4) Good acts result from a good state of mind, which means
: : : : that cultivation of a good state of mind is the way
: : : : to the good life.
: : : : 5) One who cultivates the mind this way does not have to
: : : : worry about the next world, or depend on external
: : : : powers.
: : : : According to Buddhism, truth and falsehood are concepts
: : : : derived from logical thinking. Though what is logical
: : : : is considered "true", we tend to decide our beliefs are
: : : : true based on something other than logic. Often we take
: : : : a statement to be true not because we know it is true,
: : : : but because we like it, or our family believes it,
: : : : or because it's in a holy book -- not for any "logical"
: : : : reasons. We become emotionally attached to our beliefs
: : : : first, then use logic to justify them.
: : : : When we personalize beliefs this way, the result is
: : : : conflict and disharmony. When we cling to a viewpoint
: : : : and say "This is my viewpoint, this is truth," we are
: : : : in conflict with those who do not believe it, leading
: : : : to disharmony and quarreling. This is why the Buddha
: : : : advises his followers not to accept anything as "true."
: : : : Instead of seeking truth, seek goodness.
: : : : Thoughts anyone?
: : : : Doctorate Mary
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: : : Okay, Doc M. First impression...I don't like it. I can't tell you why, but I'm thinkin' on it. Maybe it's because I've spent the last forty-eight hours thinking about Truth, and this guy says forget truth, go with goodness. It makes my eye twitch, ya know? While I'm thinking, what is "goodness", anyway?
: : : Dana S.
: yeah, I'm with you Dana. Hard enough to strive for truth, how do you strive for goodness. And according to who's terms? I mean, if truth has varied perspectives, then surely goodness has even MORE interpretations. It would seem. But......wait.....
: not having worn my orange pointy hat for very long I may be wrong but I thought in striving for goodness the budhists hoped to reach "enlightenment" i.e. truth?
: *kapoing! oops! did I step on Doc's widdle tamboriney-thingy?
: So sorry. Hey, at least it wasn't a fly, mighta been Doc's grammy!*
: : answering the ancient zen koan "What is the sound of one
: : hand clapping?"
: Oh! Oh! I know this one! It's the sound of a thief in Iran!!
I will now give you an answer from my state of perfect
enlightenment....*BBRRRAAAACKKK!* (sticking tongue out,
thumbs in ears, and wiggling fingers!)
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