Re: A Dispute!

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Posted by Diana S. on November 27, 2000 at 19:23:43:

In Reply to: A Dispute! posted by Elaine on November 27, 2000 at 18:19:44:

: : : : Hello everybody, and apologies if this has already been discussed. I diligently searched the archives and was unable to find anything to clear this up any for me!

: : : : We rented The Patriot and did not see our Eric Hurley, Soldier #2, can anyone tell me whether he made the final cut and if possible, what scene I might look for him in?

: : : : Also belated congrats for the wedding celebrations of Eric and Sharon, the web-invite was wonderful and looks like it was a joyous day!

: : : : Claudia

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: : : Nope .... no Soldier #2 to scout out. Besides Mark Baker's participation, The Patriot also includes the presence of our own "Colonial Joe" Hinson.

: : : Speaking of cute little war flicks, has anyone seen Russell Crowe's performance in The Gladiator? Great film! Michael Mann was, at one point, planning a film on the life of Julius Ceasar, in which Russell Crowe was to portray the lead.

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: : Hi Elaine,

: : Funny you should ask that. I just sat and watched it for the first time last night and to be honest, I was SO disturbed by the whole thing, I was ready to take the DVD back 15 minutes into the film. But I decided that, as I had spent good money taking it out, I was going to darn well watch the whole thing, plus the extra disk covering the making of the film!! :o( Actually, I kept thinking 'it MUST get easier'.

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: : It never did. I'm not saying that that wasn't how life was back then, that life didn't seem to be worth much - just that I found it REALLY HARD to watch. I found the *making of the film* fascinating, Russell Crowe was certainly fantastic, the storyline was soooo poignant, and certainly the film was very well put together, but - nope, don't think I could watch it again.

: : Still affected by it,
: : Kate.

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: Hiya, Kate -

: I think I can understand that. Its subject is disturbing & the film's depiction of the times is realistic, graphic, & effective.
: Yeah ... it can be very disturbing. Life WAS worth very little to the mobs of Rome, the people WERE easily appeased & controlled with 'bread & circus' - This was post-Pax Romana & the film is a good look at the decline of the Roman Empire. (There is, of course, a lesson for the modern world ... so, I think it's good that it is disturbing.)

: Okay, Kate - it's historical fiction, but with a strong factual plot base. Connection to Scotland? When Marcus Aurelius was a child, he caught the unfortunate *eye* of Emperor Hadrian. We know how Hadrian feared the highland Picts! Ever wonder how terrifying it must have been for a Roman Soldier to be posted as sentry along that wall? Now, THAT was a frontier!

: Haven't seen the DVD yet - I look forward to it, though, as I've heard it includes a lot of edited scenes.

: Elaine

Hey Elaine and Kate,

This past rainy Saturday afternoon that I said I didn't do anything all day...well, I lied. My Mom and I spent the entire afternoon watching Gladiator on DVD...AND the 4 hours of extra features (I had already seen it in the theater though). The deleted scenes are great, but of poor quality compared to the film (no touch-ups I guess). The Making of the movie (Russell Crowe is hilarious) and a documentary on bloodsports were really interesting. My final opinion on the movie..."MAXIMUS IS DA MAN!!!!" The scenes of his home were just breathtakingly beautiful to me.

We also watched the 1920 silent version of LOTM (my second time -on DVD no less). Has anyone else seen that??? Hawkeye has a minimal role in this one and looks like a 100 year old Davey Crockett while Uncas has a tattoo of a what looks like a life preserver on his sunken chest. It was hard to believe we were watching an 80 year old movie!! Boy, have we come a long, long way, not only in technology, but in the perceptions of history and Native Americans. My Mom told me my Grandmother used to play the piano in a silent movie house and that she had to watch the movie for ques to change the music. I can just picture her doiing that too!

Diana S.

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