Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc

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Posted by Champ on June 08, 1999 at 23:50:02:

In Reply to: Re: posted by MMMMarcia on June 08, 1999 at 11:10:11:

: Tom wrote:

: : I agree with Marcia- Dinnerbell Mel can handle an American accent. And I believe he does so easier than Daniel Day-Lewis since afterall Dinnerbell Mel is an American!

>Actually that part was more tongue-in-cheek on my part...;-)

but I am concerned when films take a historical figure, that is interesting in their own right, and *fudge* history [sorry MMMMarcia]...
case in point, though I love "Braveheart" [its one of my favorites], the Scottish army that supported William Wallace was heavier on armor like their British adversaries than on the feileadhmor [Wallace himself wore chainmail, etc]...same goes with the Pictish blue face paint, which went out of vogue a couple hundred years before Wallace's time...

Thats why, I think its great he [Gibson] is doing the "Swamp Fox", BUT I'm fearful about how much he'll *fudge* history on it, when he doesnt have to with this real-life character of the Rev' War :-(

Though romanticized somewhat in film, after reading W.H. Murray's researched account of the real-life "Rob Roy MacGregor" [1982 - Barnes & Noble books], the film starring Liam Neeson is more factual [albeit lengthen it over a 20 some-odd yr period] than "Braveheart". Of course, it still doesnt take away from the fact that its one of my favorites. :-)

Anybody seen "Chasing the Deer" [Jacobite rebellion of 1745] or "The Bruce" [Bannockburn]?
I'm curious about thoughts on these, entertainment-wise & historically-speaking...

: And what does Dinnerbell Mel mean? Never heard that one.

: MMMM

>Yeah Tom, let us in on this one ;-)

"Champ"

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Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc Tom 08:24:09 6/09/99 (28)
- Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc Champ 10:27:23 6/09/99 (27)
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    - Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc (straying from LOTM & finding our way back) ;-) Champ 03:46:22 6/10/99 (23)
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: : Tom wrote:

: : : I agree with Marcia- Dinnerbell Mel can handle an American accent.  And I believe he does so easier than Daniel Day-Lewis since afterall Dinnerbell Mel is an American! 

: >Actually that part was more tongue-in-cheek on my part...;-)

: but I am concerned when films take a historical figure, that is interesting in their own right, and *fudge* history [sorry MMMMarcia]...
: case in point, though I love "Braveheart" [its one of my favorites], the Scottish army that supported William Wallace was heavier on armor like their British adversaries than on the feileadhmor [Wallace himself wore chainmail, etc]...same goes with the Pictish blue face paint, which went out of vogue a couple hundred years before Wallace's time...

: Thats why, I think its great he [Gibson] is doing the "Swamp Fox", BUT I'm fearful about how much he'll *fudge* history on it, when he doesnt have to with this real-life character of the Rev' War  :-(

: Though romanticized somewhat in film, after reading W.H. Murray's researched account of the real-life "Rob Roy MacGregor" [1982 - Barnes & Noble books], the film starring Liam Neeson is more factual [albeit lengthen it over a 20 some-odd yr period] than "Braveheart". Of course, it still doesnt take away from the fact that its one of my favorites. :-)

: Anybody seen "Chasing the Deer" [Jacobite rebellion of 1745] or "The Bruce" [Bannockburn]? 
: I'm curious about thoughts on these, entertainment-wise & historically-speaking...

: : And what does Dinnerbell Mel mean?  Never heard that one.

: : MMMM

: >Yeah Tom, let us in on this one ;-)

: "Champ"


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