Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc

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Posted by Champ on June 09, 1999 at 10:27:23:

In Reply to: Re: posted by Tom on June 09, 1999 at 08:24:09:

: Yes, "Braveheart" contains alot of bad history- my personal pet peeve is the idiotic romance between Wallace and Princess Isabelle.

>I agree! The historical record bears out that it didnt happen, nor if it had could the child be his!

: Yet it is a very good movie. People love it!

>I agree again, all the other aside, it remains one of my favorite films...

: When a filmmaker forgets that he is trying to entertain and not inform then watch out. Steven Speilberg recently admitted that he believes that "Amistad" failed because it was too much of a history lesson rather than a compelling drama.

>Ahh, but Speilberg was also guilty of *mishistory* on this one too... more like because the subject was to uncomfortable for most audiences...

: I am willing to forgive a filmmaker for "fudging" the past as long as he does not offend or bore me. Bad history and bad moviemaking combine to bring out some true horrors. Anyone ever seen Al Pacino in "Revolution?"

>Yes, and while I agree with you on this film, most experts on the Rev War agree that they got the overall look correct...

What I dont understand is why filmmakers take an interesting character & feel they need to change his o/r hers story, when alot of times the true story is more interesting?
I'm battling that right now as historical consultant on a Civil War film scheduled to began filming next year!

"Champ"

You still havent let us in on the joke (Dinnerbell Mel)? :-)

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Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc Tom 19:12:34 6/09/99 (25)
- Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc (straying from LOTM & finding our way back) ;-) Champ 03:46:22 6/10/99 (23)
  - Miscellaneous Junk Tom 08:40:57 6/10/99 (22)
    - Re: Miscellaneous Junk Mark 15:08:02 6/11/99 (1)
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    - Re: Miscellaneous Junk - HOLY MOLIE That Ghost from the past again 14:30:10 6/11/99 (0)
    - Re: Miscellaneous Junk Trooper Harrison 06:38:01 6/11/99 (0)
    - Re: Misc. Junk --- "Historical Films" & a *challenge* Champ 03:52:41 6/11/99 (3)
      - Brian Pohanka Tom 08:10:27 6/11/99 (0)
      - Re: Misc. Junk --- "Historical Films" & a *challenge* Tom 06:42:31 6/11/99 (1)
        
        Re: Misc. Junk --- "Historical Films" & a *challenge* Champ 14:17:22 6/11/99 (0)
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        Re: Miscellaneous Junk Trooper Harrison 06:09:45 6/11/99 (2)
        
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        Re: Miscellaneous Junk Champ 15:01:20 6/11/99 (0)
        
        Re: Miscellaneous Junk Trooper Price 20:38:37 6/10/99 (0)
        
        Re: Miscellaneous Junk Champ 18:09:10 6/10/99 (4)
        
        cracker tom bubba 19:08:32 6/10/99 (3)
        
        Closed minded troublemaker. Captain Fingerhut 22:30:49 6/10/99 (1)
        
        Re: Closed minded troublemaker. Champ 23:07:41 6/10/99 (0)
        
        Closed minded troublemaker. Captain Fingerhut 22:29:32 6/10/99 (0)
- Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc Tom 19:47:04 6/09/99 (0)
Re: "The Patriot" - Dinnerbell Mel - Braveheart - etc Gayle 13:00:03 6/09/99 (0)

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: : Yes, "Braveheart" contains alot of bad history- my personal pet peeve is the idiotic romance between Wallace and Princess Isabelle.

: >I agree! The historical record bears out that it didnt happen, nor if it had could the child be his!

: : Yet it is a very good movie. People love it!

: >I agree again, all the other aside, it remains one of my favorite films...

: : When a filmmaker forgets that he is trying to entertain and not inform then watch out. Steven Speilberg recently admitted that he believes that "Amistad" failed because it was too much of a history lesson rather than a compelling drama.

: >Ahh, but Speilberg was also guilty of *mishistory* on this one too... more like because the subject was to uncomfortable for most audiences...

: : I am willing to forgive a filmmaker for "fudging" the past as long as he does not offend or bore me. Bad history and bad moviemaking combine to bring out some true horrors. Anyone ever seen Al Pacino in "Revolution?"

: >Yes, and while I agree with you on this film, most experts on the Rev War agree that they got the overall look correct...

: What I dont understand is why filmmakers take an interesting character & feel they need to change his o/r hers story, when alot of times the true story is more interesting?
: I'm battling that right now as historical consultant on a Civil War film scheduled to began filming next year!

: "Champ"

: You still havent let us in on the joke (Dinnerbell Mel)? :-)

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