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joe wiggs
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Posted - October 06 2012 :  8:39:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
az (anorestic zebra) Ryan never has and never will (he is currently dead) substantiate your pathetic conclusions no matter how often you twist his perspectives. do you have a life?
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AZ Ranger
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Posted - November 05 2012 :  08:49:13 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by joe wiggs

az (anorestic zebra) Ryan never has and never will (he is currently dead) substantiate your pathetic conclusions no matter how often you twist his perspectives. do you have a life?




Joe This really shows how stupid and childish you are. Again this a quote from Sgt Ryan



Sgt Ryan "The order was then given to charge, and we away went up the steep bank charging through the Indians in a solid body, Major Reno being in the advance. As we cut through them the fighting was hand to hand, and it was death to anyone who fell from his horse or was wounded and was not able to keep up with the command.


“ An officer's first duty is to his horses.”

SEMPER FI

Edited by - AZ Ranger on November 05 2012 08:56:47 AM
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joe wiggs
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Posted - May 25 2013 :  10:54:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One can not find fault when a person attempts to address a deplorable and sad non-military movement in the best light possible. For example Ryan's description:"Charging through the Indians in a solid body" actually refer's to a mad dash to safety of men pressed together in their haste to flee.

Remarkably you may be the only indiviual on this planet incapable of understanding this.
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joe wiggs
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Posted - May 25 2013 :  4:44:40 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by AZ Ranger

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Originally posted by Benteen

Who would know, who did know? The troopers who right after that battle counted the spent shells, and several did it.

If your relying upon Indian statements, they vary from little to no ammo in the belts to full belts, or nearly full belts. Perhaps Benteen's "scattered corn" statement best fits what happened. Several positions were overran, one by one, and that kept up until they were finished. And it didn't take any longer than Benteen said it did.



Did the troopers account for approximately 25,000 + rounds of carbine and revolver ammunition?

What does it say regarding the ratio of hits to fired?

How would additional ammunition make them more successful at hits?

What quantity of revolver ammunition was with the pack train?






What answers does your four meaningless questions provide?
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joe wiggs
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Posted - May 25 2013 :  4:50:07 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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joe wiggs
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Posted - June 21 2013 :  8:10:56 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by whistlingboy

There seems to be some concensus here on the board, at least by description, that Reno LED a charge to the river and up the embankments. If we put ourselves on a horse, or for some idiotic reason on our knees by our horse in some kind of skirmish line and together see this (going by what's been described) horde of Indians coming at us, whooping it up, firing repeaters and discharging arrows all around us, seeing our buddies heads' getting blown up next to us....well, the phenomenon that occurs is not an orderly retreat but "mass hysteria" which manifests itself in the form of PANIC and involves every trooper, including RENO, now dazed and shocked by what's happened next to him. They aren't retreating, they are running for their lives, crying, screaming and wildly turning around to shoot an errant shot into the air not concentrated and meant to kill anyone but to naively scare some Indian. They scamper for their lives and at that moment the top priority is not killing any other life but saving their own. It behooves me how one can denigrate Custer's leadership under fire and build Reno's character by saying he led a 'charge' to the river. Reno saved himself and more than likely had help doing that...he was not in any condition to save anybody else at that moment. Fair is fair.

Happy 4th of July to all!



I sure miss you buddy! I hope to hook up with you again one day.
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Posted - June 23 2013 :  11:27:56 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by AZ Ranger

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I beleive Custer thought the Indians would run and had no expectation that Reno could hold them.

Custer intended that the warriors would be caught between his force and that of Reno's. Benteen's responsibility was two fold;turn back any Indians who were attempted to flee and as a support
to Reno.

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He had only to bring them to battle or drive them. Thanks to someone on another board I now believe Custer did not intend a flank attack or else he could have done it. Seeing the size of the village I believe his objective was to let Reno and Benteen drive them from the village and Custer would block them from crossing the river. The new objective drive them towards Terry, kill a few, and capture the village.

Custer never observed the true size of the village until he arrived in the area of Luce Ridge. from Reno's hill, the northern portion of the village was hidden from him. As a result, his sending Reno and Benteen was irrelvant to the village size. Please explain how you "drive" a large exodus of human toard Terry?

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Unfortunately there were to many Indians for Reno to drive them but he did bring them to battle. There were to many Indians willing to fight and Custer got them to battle
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It is most unlikely that anyone intended that Reno act as a driving force at all. The tracks of the village ponies and lodge pole dragings were sufficient enough that any member of the command (capable of reading those signs) new how many Indians were involved. From that number they could extrapolate the number of warriors. Reno's job was simple;bring the Indians to battle which he accomplished

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