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CT•Ranger Posted - October 15 2002 : 8:49:25 PM
Which battle do you all find most interesting to study or read about?
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Trailstalker Posted - July 14 2007 : 4:17:38 PM
I'd ahve to say Bradock's Defeat, along with Ticonderoga. To, Ticonderoga was a pivotal point. a good "What if.." if you will.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - April 24 2007 : 10:51:26 PM
Nope. The French that interest me left France to start a new life in a distant colony and got precious little support from home. Since then they have managed to depose their kings four times, have gone through two emperors, and a number of republics. The best and bravest of them lie at Marengo, Austerlitz, Jena, Eylau, Borodino, Ligny, Quatre Bras, and Waterloo. "Le brave des brave" was stood up and shot by his own people. What is left is a mere shadow of the France of the Sun King and the Emperor. Perhaps it is well that Nouvelle France ended when it did. What would have happened to it 20 or so years later? Nothing good.
Monadnock Guide Posted - April 24 2007 : 6:36:06 PM
Talk about "trying again" Fitz, - any thoughts on the upcoming French election?
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - April 24 2007 : 2:22:15 PM
Better to be French and lose than to be British and win. If you are French and lose, you can always try again, but if you are British, you will always be British!

Hey, that could be a "Thought For The Day"!

Oh well, back to the tavern.
Wilderness Woman Posted - April 24 2007 : 12:28:27 PM
And that, MG, is probably one of the main reasons why they lost!
Monadnock Guide Posted - April 24 2007 : 07:18:41 AM
Although the French lost - they sound like they had a good time doing it.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - April 23 2007 : 5:10:24 PM
The Jesuit father tells us that in Ecclesiastes it says that there is a time for everything, so we must fore go our pleasures until Nouvelle France is safe. Then one day we will be able to resume our debauch . . er ... pleasures as we once did before l'Anglois maudit decided to steal our land.

Vive le Roi!!!
Wilderness Woman Posted - April 23 2007 : 2:12:33 PM
[WW leans toward those nearest her and holding her fan up to her face to prevent the Frenchman from hearing her words, she says...]

Ah! I see the Frenchman has changed his tune! In another conversation, did he not say that he greatly enjoys having tavern wenches sit upon his knees? Now, of a sudden, he insists that the French have no Latinate voluptousness or Gallic laziness and that Lay-Fran-say would rather fight than make love with their faces!

I daresay, I find this impossible to believe, do you not agree? And especially his demented idea that one day the Fran-say shall rule this part of the world. Hah! He does dream, does he not?
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - April 23 2007 : 1:44:53 PM
quote:
Your kind of guy? I think you are the guy, Miss-yer Lay-Fran-say!


Non! No time for that. We must spend all our time in the forests of New France protecting our land from the incursions of the evil British. Perhaps some day, when all of America is French . . . .
Obediah Posted - April 23 2007 : 10:38:25 AM
More likely "a woman on each knee!"
Wilderness Woman Posted - April 23 2007 : 10:18:52 AM
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Originally posted by Fitzhugh Williams

Nope, that about covers it. It's a line from a little French drinking song. You can almost imagine someone leaned back in a chair, feet propped up against the wall, and his head leaning against one of those huge wine barrels you see in old French and Dutch paintings. Instead of pouring a drink, he finds it easier to simply crack the tap a bit and let the wine drip into his mouth. It sort of defines the Gallic laziness expression. My kind of guy.


Your kind of guy? I think you are the guy, Miss-yer Lay-Fran-say!

Oh yes... quite the picture...complete with "the woman on your knee." Yes, indeed. Methinks you like the wine cellar very much.

Obediah Posted - April 23 2007 : 10:04:04 AM
Interesting...perhaps a weak spot in the design of the game --OR-- a weak spot in my game playing!
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - April 23 2007 : 09:22:38 AM
The British had more men, more guns, more ships, more supplies, and all the time they needed. Once the batteries surrounding the city had been captured, it was only a matter of time until the fortress had to surrender. Massive assaults don't usually work. That plays into the plan of the defense (see Fort Carillon that same year). You only need to cut off the supplies, shell them constantly, and wait them out. It would have taken Abercombie about a week at Fort Carillon had he done this.
Obediah Posted - April 23 2007 : 12:03:23 AM
Louisbourg...I've played the computer game "Birth of America" several times, my favorite scenario being the F&IW. It's extremely easy to win the war as the British (since the French get almost no reinforcements); in fact the Redcoats capture every single objective except one: Louisbourg. No matter how huge an army can be built there and no matter how much bombarding the Royal Navy does, whenever the British get around to assaulting the Fortress (as they eventually must), they get stomped by the French (so much for Gallic laziness). So could someone please explain to me what happened in real life?
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - April 22 2007 : 6:45:24 PM
Nope, that about covers it. It's a line from a little French drinking song. You can almost imagine someone leaned back in a chair, feet propped up against the wall, and his head leaning against one of those huge wine barrels you see in old French and Dutch paintings. Instead of pouring a drink, he finds it easier to simply crack the tap a bit and let the wine drip into his mouth. It sort of defines the Gallic laziness expression. My kind of guy.
Obediah Posted - April 22 2007 : 5:13:13 PM
Hey Fitz, since I don't "par-lay-voo Fran-say," I had to run your signature through BabelFish & it translated it as "Two feet against the wall and the head under the tap." Did I miss something here?
Monadnock Guide Posted - February 20 2007 : 8:35:43 PM
Ceratinly can't argue the point Fitz, - besides was there any real question about you being right all along? Have to say though, wearing a bearskin hat "up there" sounds like a good idea, regardless of which seige we're talking about.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - February 20 2007 : 8:01:11 PM
Also notice that the French Marine uniforms are the 1750 and earlier style. The reason for that is the in-house unit portrays the year 1744 at all times. But then maybe they are doing the first siege and not the second. Could be.

But then I guess not. In the background there are some highlander Grens, but they seem to be wearing bearskin hats, so what's up with that? So it they had any regulars at all, it couldn't have been the first siege, it would have to have been the second. So I was right all along.
Monadnock Guide Posted - February 20 2007 : 5:00:30 PM
That's a very good link Fitz.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - February 20 2007 : 11:16:05 AM
I have a CD produced by the site which gives a really great picture of what the town is really like. And it's history. The only problem is, the CD was made in 1995 using the technology available at that time, and now it is somewhat outdated. It doesn't really want to play well on today's operating systems. Maybe after the 2008 event, or even before it, they will produce a new one using state of the art software.
RedFraggle Posted - February 20 2007 : 11:08:57 AM
That Louisbourg site is lovely, Fitz. I guess I never realized that some of these forts were like miniature towns. Silly of me, I know. The images on the site are great, unlike a lot of other websites, which don't really give you an idea of what the interior of these forts looked like.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - February 20 2007 : 10:59:14 AM
Also notice the flag on the right. It is the French Marine (troupes de la colonie) flag. You will see it used by various reenacting units, BUT this, Louisbourg, is the only place where is can be flown correctly. Flags were issued to regiments, and since the Marines were independent companies, they did not have flags. But the troupes at Louisbourg were organized into a larger unit in preparation for the siege and were awarded this flag by the King.

To see a very good reproduction of this flag, watch The Patriot. In the scene just before the last battle, when the Frenchman walks out of his tent, the flag is flying in front of it. Correct? No!!! But in The Patriot it's just one small drop in a very large bucket.
Fitzhugh Williams Posted - February 20 2007 : 10:47:59 AM
Next year, 2008, will be the big year for Louisbourg. They had an event in 1995, and again in 1999. The one in 1999 was considered by all to have been a great event. Last summer they again hosted an event, but by design it was much smaller. Sort of gearing up for the big one. In the summer of 2008 they will host the 250th anniversary of the seige, and I think this is the one everyone is waiting on. The location and the site are the best restored historic town in America, including Williamsburg. The disadvantage is the location. And the somewhat limited tourist season. But if you don't do anything else in 2008, go to Louisbourg.

http://fortress.uccb.ns.ca/parks/fort_e.html

Monadnock Guide Posted - February 19 2007 : 8:24:12 PM
Something on the Siege Of Louisbourg, - interesting reading. http://www.militaryheritage.com/louisbg.htm
Army_Brat84 Posted - February 19 2007 : 1:53:52 PM
I have to go with Braddock's Defeat since it acts as somewhat of a redemptive event for young George Washington after his skirmish in 1754 where Half King killed Jumonville (sp) and his surrender of Ft. Necessity.

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