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 Hawkeye and Cora: "The Kiss"!

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Wilderness Woman Posted - February 14 2003 : 08:31:07 AM
There has been much discussion about what may have happened between Hawkeye and Cora in "The Kiss" scene in the Fort, that we viewers did not see. I thought it would be interesting to take a Valentine's Day Poll on this subject. Please feel free to give your comments and reasons below, but Please! Keep it clean and tasteful!
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IWLFNDU Posted - July 30 2012 : 7:21:42 PM
Whatever the case may be, it's pretty much perfect for the scene!






Fitzhugh Williams Posted - July 29 2012 : 09:41:43 AM
Well, if you can't remember where you found it, then maybe you did write it and just forgot. One of the advantages of growing older. Lack of memory. When convenient.
richfed Posted - July 28 2012 : 2:58:30 PM
Can't claim credit, WW, but I forget where I found it.
Monadnock Guide Posted - July 24 2012 : 7:28:36 PM
Originally posted by Wilderness Woman

It's a new one on me, too. For that matter... so is the "horizontal polka."

Theresa, I have always heard that as "knock your socks off"!

My, my, my. The things you can learn in Mohicanland.
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LOL, - and from WW, ... "The horizontal polka" no less, what a (nice) surprise, ... ;)
Wilderness Woman Posted - July 24 2012 : 6:19:24 PM
Whew..... feeling a little breathless right now......

Did you write that, Sachem? If so........ wow. If not..... still wow. Beautiful words put together beautifully.

I went back to the beginning of that thread (because I thought I remembered that I started it), and that was a fun trip down memory lane. It reminded me how much I miss Scott Bubar, for one thing. And it's difficult to believe that it was nearly 10 years ago! 10!!!!!
richfed Posted - July 22 2012 : 11:18:25 AM
And what is a kiss, specifically? A pledge properly sealed, a promise seasoned to taste, a vow stamped with the immediacy of a lip, a rosy circle drawn around the verb "to love." A kiss is a message too intimate for the ear, infinity captured in the bee's brief visit to a flower, secular communication with an aftertaste of heaven, the pulse rising from the heart to utter its name on a lover's lip: 'Forever'.
Light of the Moon Posted - November 17 2006 : 11:54:05 PM
I dunno'...that jittery feeling gets a lot of us to "WooHoo" and then "DOUHT!" later on.
No this is not a confession, Obi!
RedFraggle Posted - November 17 2006 : 11:17:54 PM
Sorry to interrupt all the talk of WooHoo, though it leaves me wondering just what kind of movies Obediah watches! "Horizontal drilling"? Reminds me of "Log Jammin'"..."Big Lebowsky," anyone?

I voted for a lot of kissing but not all the way. Don't get me wrong, I like the thought of WooHoo, but I can't see it happening here. First of all, Hawkeye and Cora are at the top of a fort, just around the corner from a whole bunch of other people. Cora's father and wanna-be husband are also at the fort. WooHoo doesn't seem likely to me at this point, but, then again, they are in the middle of a warzone and may not live through the night, so why not?

As far as their satisfied looks go.... I figure that if Cora's considering marriage to Duncan (whom she clearly doesn't love "that way") she maybe hasn't really been "in love" before. Nathaniel is probably unlike any man she's ever known--dangerously, rough-around-the-edges attractive--and his mutual attraction to her is undoubtedly magnetic (who can forget "I'm looking at you, miss"?). But I think that lots and lots and LOTS of empassioned kissing may be satisfying enough to someone in Cora's situation. Think about that wonderfully jittery feeling that comes from just kissing someone for the first time--especially if that someone is your first real "love." That could be enough to create some satisfied faces, I think, without WooHoo.

I'd rather save the WooHoo for later, when there's more time and fewer people around to interrupt!
Obediah Posted - November 17 2006 : 3:15:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Wilderness Woman

It's a new one on me, too. For that matter... so is the "horizontal polka."

Theresa, I have always heard that as "knock your socks off"!

My, my, my. The things you can learn in Mohicanland.


'Horizontal polka' huh?

This reminds me of some lines from a TV movie I saw a few years ago. The hero was asking the girl about oil wells...

Q: Do you know what 'horizontal drilling' is?

A: Yeah, it happens right after making out.


WooHoo!
Light of the Moon Posted - November 16 2006 : 9:38:56 PM
There's a lot of Woo-Hoo'ing going on! Pretty cool that we're all in the same mindset. Or is it just plain scary?

TBug Posted - October 02 2006 : 4:01:04 PM
It was most definitely WooHoo folks.
Light of the Moon Posted - August 27 2006 : 11:06:49 PM
[quote]Originally posted by nekutmeqwanoc

i think they wanted to go all the way but couldnt.first it would take a while to get all those clothes off.



That's ok, nekut. Slow-mo has always been one of my favorite things!

Do you think they could slow-mo Uncas and Alice
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LeyLana1462 Posted - July 07 2006 : 04:45:40 AM
Hey Tony! I didn't know you haunted over here too!!!

I voted WOOOOOHOOOOOO

You can't tell me with their expressions before, during and after there wasn't more than a kiss.

I thought it was beautifully and tastefully done tho.

Just made you wish your man would do the same....haa haa haaa..... I'm married to an Aussie soldier, I have two chances Buckley's and None!
Lady of Glencairn Posted - July 06 2006 : 07:02:50 AM
Spontaneous combustion IMO.

I cant see Hawkeye or Cora for that matter just being satisfied with a kiss, especially since their circumstances were in itself so tenuous. There might never have been another opportunity ... so Woo Hoo all the way!!!
nekutmeqwanoc Posted - June 10 2006 : 6:41:52 PM
i think they wanted to go all the way but couldnt.first it would take a while to get all those clothes off.then they are in a fort with people all around and cannon balls and musket balls flying all around.i think there would have been some kissing
Tasblades Posted - June 02 2006 : 10:31:15 AM
Man...where have i been! :)

Peace
Light of the Moon Posted - May 25 2006 : 8:08:08 PM
I have two words to say about it all


WOO_HOO!
Lurking Huron0841 Posted - May 17 2006 : 4:58:09 PM
Yep, next year is also the 250th anniversary of the fall of Ft. William Henry. A release of the entire LOTM movie would be a great marketing tie-in. A pipe dream I've mentioned in these parts before.
Anybody know M. Mann or the folks at Fox?
Irishgirl Posted - May 17 2006 : 3:33:13 PM
Yeah Keira we all do. We can only live in hope that someday Michael Mann will release a DVD with everything that was shot on it. It would sell like hotcakes. Next year is the 15 year anniversary so who knows.
Keira Posted - May 17 2006 : 2:52:22 PM
Irishgirl and Raindrops you have a good point there.I just wish I could see the Uncas and Alice love scene someday..
Irishgirl Posted - May 15 2006 : 11:42:47 PM
Raindrops you make an excellent point about Uncas. Since they had a "love scene" in the cave, I guess going by lonewolf's explanation of things, they were as good as married. This would definitely throw some light on why Uncas raced like a man possessed up the steep rocks to rescue Alice. I still wish Michael Mann had left that scene in and it would have avoided a lot of confusion and questions as to why Uncas raced off by himself, throwing all caution to the wind, to save a girl he barely knew and to whom he had hardly spoken at all. He did feel obligated to save Alice from whatever fate Magua had in mind for her.
raindrops Posted - May 15 2006 : 9:40:46 PM
Thinking about it now, I wonder if lonewolf's explanation can help us understand the relationship between Alice and Uncas. Considering the cut out love scene it makes more sense that Uncas was in such a hurry after Magua took Alice away. Did he feel obliged?
raindrops Posted - May 11 2006 : 9:53:42 PM
paazau I totally agree with your beautifully written comment to lonewolf's post.

I am very interested in Indian culture and it's so great to get information from the source. I admire their way of life and agree with you about the world benefiting from adopting their ways.

Unfortunately,living in the UK I hardly have a chance to come across any American Indians.

Regarding "the Kiss" I always thought that what we see on the screen is all that happened. I didn't take Indian perspective into consideration (I didn't know what it was anyway), I just felt that way when I first watched LOTM. Realistic or not, it's a beautiful scene.
paazau Posted - May 09 2006 : 8:36:52 PM
Thank you for the link to this topic Wilderness Woman! What a treasure trove the archives must be...

I initially said "all the way", and still will as that was my inital feeling on it. I can't add anything to the many and varied reasons already given, so will simply say "I agree", with a from the terms and ideas expressed.

I must add, though, after reading lonewolf's post I see that I was interpreting the scene using 'my version of the truth' and not considering the characters' realities. Thank you lonewolf for the wonderfully enlightening information you shared. Yet one more aspect of the Indian culture which is fascinating in it's sensibility. The rest of the world could truly benefit from adopting some of these ways.
Monadnock Guide Posted - May 09 2006 : 6:06:10 PM
Might be the plains Indians were a tad different that the eastern Indians, - but a good read is Lewis & Clark's expedition. Journals was kept by some of the expedition, and sexual shyness wasn't a problem for any concerned, - long winters on the plains etc. One member from Boston I believe, thought he managed to get to heaven without dying.

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