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Monadnock Guide
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richfed
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 Posted - April 07 2012 : 4:51:11 PM
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - April 07 2012 : 7:09:40 PM
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CHICAGO (Market Watch) Your cell phone is the enemy.
Sure, it connects you with people, the Internet, stupid games and even your bank account. But its also a tracking device that your family, your favorite retailer and virtually any law-enforcement agency in the world can use to find you.
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What it costs to lose your phone
Losing your smartphone can cost much more than you may realize, says Marke****ch's Jeanette Pavini.
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And youre complicit in helping them do so. By keeping your phone on and who doesnt do that, except, of course, on airplanes? you are letting any number of people and places have access to private information about you that you might not think youre giving out.
Sometimes youre putting the information into pretty packages by signing into sites like Foursquare, which is linked to your Facebook account, when you enter a restaurant, a bar, even a church.
Location information can reveal a great deal about a person, said Catherine Crump, staff attorney at the American Civil Liberties Unions.
It can show who youre friends with, what medical offices you visit, what organizations you belong to and, in worst-case situations, where youve been when you dont want to be found.
And, just like you see in the TV crime shows, the longer your cell phone is tracked, the more information about you is uncovered.
Consider the uproar around the controversial Girls Around Me app for iPhones that looked, to some, like a stalking tool. The developers, in a long-winded response to the Wall Street Journal late last month, said the app was meant only to make geo-social exploration of popular venues easy and visual.
It did so by using publicly available data from Foursquare and Facebook to tell users which, say, bars and nightclubs are hot on a particular night.
It was billed as a go-to tool for guys looking for hot chicks who used Foursquare to see where they checked in on a given map area. In fact, the app would note anyone, male or female, who had checked in at places in the vicinity.
Not only would users know who was where but, through public information posted on Facebook pages, the users in some cases were able to find out a girls name, what she looked like, her birth date, where she went to school and worked, who she might be with and any number of things that people share through social-media sites. Whats more, the girls had no idea they were being tracked that way.
(After Foursquare cut off access to the app, the developer pulled it but said it would continue to tweak it and plans to reintroduce it. Read more on WSJ's Digits blog. )
That underscores the conundrum with your cell phone: While its convenient to find your friends, directions or the weather, youre giving up a little piece of your privacy each time you use it.
Your cell phone is your best friend who is a tattletale, said Mike Gikas, senior electronics editor at Consumer Reports. Its there for you, it comforts you, it gets you stuff but then it tells the world about it.
And the more you tell it, the more its going to share, he added.
Police track cell phones
Increasingly, law-enforcement agencies are using cell phones to track the bad guys, but catch a lot of good people like you in the cross-hairs, according to an exhaustive study by the ACLU.
The ACLU collected documentation from more than 200 police departments nationwide, out of the 380 they asked, about their policies and practices for cell-phone tracking, whether with a warrant or not. Only 10% said they didnt use cell-phone tracking at all.
The report revealed that the majority practiced at least some form of cell-phone tracking with many doing it quite frequently.
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Bingo, - right on, thanks Rich. |
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lane batot
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Posted - April 08 2012 : 4:27:24 PM
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| I am the last person on earth to not have a cell phone(apparently even pygmies in the Congo have them now). I still have a very old circa 1980's phone that I keep firmly tethered to the wall in my house, where all phones belong by jiminny, you young whippersnappers!!! |
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James N.
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Posted - April 08 2012 : 5:32:29 PM
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Originally posted by lane batot
I am the last person on earth to not have a cell phone(apparently even pygmies in the Congo have them now). I still have a very old circa 1980's phone that I keep firmly tethered to the wall in my house, where all phones belong by jiminny, you young whippersnappers!!!
Ditto that! And for MY money anyone foolish enough to fall for the blandishments of these hucksters DESERVES the loss of privacy and intrusion by Big Brother. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - April 08 2012 : 8:15:00 PM
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| While I do have an old Tracfone, - it's off more than it's on. Strictly for any "unexpected events" while hiking or biking, definitely NOT for chatting. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - April 09 2012 : 06:43:34 AM
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I do have a cell phone. I also still two land-line phones in my house. I'm just not ready to give them up, yet, and probably never will. My cell phone is turned off at all times, except when I am driving to and from re-enacting events. I guess if they want to track me there, that's OK. I don't text at all.
I have to say that my cell phone has come in very, very handy on a number of occasions while I am out and about, including calls to AAA to get roadside assistance. I would not want to do without one now.
I agree that this stuff is really getting out of hand, though. And stupidity is as stupidity does. |
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - April 09 2012 : 08:19:16 AM
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| Actually I have two cell phones. I had one in each car, then when everything went digital, I just kept them. I have an old "grandfathered" plan and I can have both phones for what I would pay for one on an updated plan. So I keep them. Two come in handy. I leave one on the charger so there is always a phone ready to go. I don't have voice mail (Just call back!), and I don't have text messaging (Why? Just call! It's a phone!), and I don't have an internet connection (I have two laptop computers, thank you!). But I wouldn't want to do without the instant communication. I remember the days of trying to find a pay phone to check up on something and I don't miss that at all. The only thing I don't like is carrying it around in my pocket all the time. I tried one of those belt holsters and I hated them. I have a couple of the Motorola Razr phones, obsolete now they tell me, but nothing is smaller. What I don't see is how people carry those smart phones with the teeny weeny keyboards. Wouldn't fit in my pocket. And besides, my fingers are too big for those little keys. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - April 09 2012 : 08:38:21 AM
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| I have never texted, like Fitz said, it is a phone, besides, I don't think that old Tracfone can send/receive any texts, ... dunno, don't care. - A few years ago I saw this guy leaving the building where I was working at the time, (security) and he had a backpack, some kind of large shoulder bag, and at least one or two computers - all hanging off him. - I told him if he added anything else he'd need a wheelbarrow, - I was only kiddin' with him, - talk about a guy with his "nose out of joint". - Such is life, .... |
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lane batot
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Posted - April 14 2012 : 08:58:17 AM
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| ...I just saw(yesterday), an Amish lady on a cell phone! It IS the end of the world! Those dang Mayans were right! |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - April 14 2012 : 5:15:11 PM
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Hahahahaha!!!!  Oh, my..... I love it!
It's probable that it was not hers. They have no problem with using a pay phone or borrowing a neighbor's phone. So I guess why not borrow a cell phone?
You sure she wasn't a re-enactor?  I have gotten asked if I am Amish when I am out in public wearing my 18th-century clothing. One Hispanic woman was so excited! She wanted to know were my "village" was so she could go visit it. I nearly died laughing. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - April 14 2012 : 5:24:20 PM
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http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/04/13/anonymous-hacker-busted-by-fbi/
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This particular images EXIF data revealed that "it came from an iPhone" near Melbourne, Australia, which then led the FBI to Ochoas Facebook page
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LOL, - you'd think posting this stuff on-line would seem like a bad idea for these "bright folks", ... guess not. BTW WW, you told her where you village was, - right? ... ;) |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - April 15 2012 : 1:03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Monadnock Guide
BTW WW, you told her where you village was, - right? ... ;)
Well, although I was a little bit tempted to "tell her where to go" and how to get there (grin), I patiently explained to her that I am not Amish... I am a re-enactor. She looked at me as though I had just landed from Mars and said: "What's that?" |
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winglo
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 12:39:47 PM
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I hope no one who has responded to this actually believes that you can't be tracked through your home phone, i.e. a line phone. It takes longer, but any detective can figure out an awful lot about you by just seeing who you call.
It's funny, but every generation thinks that they are safer than the one before. I'll bet when Alexander Graham Bell first invented the telephone there were many who wouldn't get one in their home for exactly the same reason. |
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 2:01:02 PM
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| Home & c-phone tracking isn't quite the same Winglo. No question who you called, or called you could be found from a home phone. - Todays "smart phones" work in "real time" and give a record of all your movements too, - in real time. Even cheating spouses "secret meetings" have been used in divorce cases, ... not so secret today. With the right (illegal, but common) monitor you an listen in on live conversations, ... without a warrant. Apple is a complete master at knowing where all their phones are & have been. |
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