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Seamus
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Posted - February 20 2009 :  11:50:05 AM  Show Profile  Visit Seamus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Kay--

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in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
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'...holy sh*t ...what a ride!'

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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - February 20 2009 :  12:51:34 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Seamus

A few more shirts, coats, etc., and you CAN get them, WW.......tuck some cash away and they shall be yours. Works for me on certain 'toys' I want/got.....

Pamper yourself...you deserve it! You only go around once. Besides, it will be something a certain Sjt., now a Leftenant, won't want when he sees them or buy out from under you FIRST!


Well, you see... the thing is that I use the money I make with my sewing to help pay for my expenses getting to and from events... gas, food, overnight lodging at times. Nothing really left over to put toward expensive shoes.

Oh, my... the visual I got of our Dear Lt. Hack mincing along in brocaded high heels! Would that I could see it!

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Posted - February 20 2009 :  12:55:46 PM  Show Profile  Visit Seamus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Not even five dollars?

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Seamus

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Posted - February 20 2009 :  12:57:49 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Kay

Martha W's shoes are absolutely stunning! We carry Fugawee brand shoes at our shop. Mid 19th cen though-not 18th cen. They are good shoes though and Fugawee is one of the better period shoe manufacturers we have found to deal with. I know many living historians who swear by them so they would be a good investment!

I agree that Fugawees are excellent reproductions. I do have a pair of the plain black dress shoes -- the Anna style -- that I wear now with my fancy gown. They only cost me $90! They are the most expensive pair of shoes I have ever owned in my life!

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As for the engraving of Martha in George Custis' book- if the engraving of her was made expressly for his book ca 1860- then the artist commissioned to create her likeness would have also used the figure of the "ideal" woman of the mid 19th cen.

No, John Wollaston was an 18th century American painter (1742-1775). He apparently painted Martha in person. His painting of her was engraved by someone else, for use in the 1860 book.

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Posted - February 20 2009 :  1:00:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
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Originally posted by Seamus

Not even five dollars?


Good Heavens! At $5 per sewing job, it would take me 5 years to save up enough to buy $180 shoes! I may not even be re-enacting any more by then.

But who know? Maybe I can find a way.....

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Regarding my earlier comment about the criticisms of Wollaston's portraits, here are some further examples of his work. I think you will be able to see the similarities between them all, particularly in the eyes. Compare these to the image Obi posted on the previous page.

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Mrs. William Allen, c. 1756


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Elizabeth Harrison Randolph, c.1756


Even the men tend to have the same eyes...

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Hey, Seamus! How do you like his green velvet suit? Nice, eh?


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Posted - February 20 2009 :  1:17:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit Seamus's Homepage  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Very much....There are your new shoes, should ye wish to provide me with such a fine dress.........interested?? They could figure into the costs, you know.......

Life's journey is not to
arrive at the grave safely
in a well preserved body,
but rather to skid in sideways,
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'...holy sh*t ...what a ride!'

~~Mavis Leyrer, Seattle


Seamus

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Posted - February 20 2009 :  2:04:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Hummm...... I have a wine-colored velvet suit with a gold silk veste. I don't get to wear it much. It is Rev War styled so not good for F&I.


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Posted - February 20 2009 :  2:40:06 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Well, Seamus... maybe we can talk about that some time. I think I would prefer to wait until after I have made my first regimental or frock coat. Sewing on velvet, you see, is a real challenge, and mistakes can be very ugly and expensive.

Yes. I shall consider that.

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Posted - February 20 2009 :  5:47:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
My seamstress says the velvet slips. The sutler, 96 District Storehouse, told her to hang the velvet up for a week or so to let it stretch as much as it would. Then the backing needs to be something really solid, like a heavy cotton, that will hold it's shape. I wanted to use linen but was told not to. And the seamstress didn't want to make it, but I asked her so very nicely she couldn't refuse.


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Posted - February 20 2009 :  7:02:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
You are very correct, Fitz. [WW grumbles behind her fan, because she hates to have to admit it.]

The long, stiff nap of the velvet tends to make the fabric "walk" as you are stitching it on the machine. In other words, the pressure of the pressure foot against the feed dogs will make the top layer of velvet move ahead of the bottom layer, regardless of how well you pin it first. It is extremely frustrating.

I will bet your seamstress (wife?) was quite close to madness by the time she finished that project. Did she have much hair left?

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Posted - February 20 2009 :  11:09:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Copy this URL to Link to this Reply
Not the wife. Any sewing in this family has always been done by me. I learned on a manual Singer with the pedal-type foot board. I never quite adjusted to the electric ones. But anything as complex as breeches or a coat is beyond my abilities. My seamstress is Fran Sanders of Fort Downing Trading Co. She is good. I am currently hand-sewing a gilet, but it is not that difficult to do. No lining, no sleeves, no pockets, just 12 button holes. I may not even cover the buttons with fabric.


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