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winglo
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 Posted - July 13 2009 : 7:44:20 PM
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I just got back from a visit to North Carolina. I know some of you are lucky enough to live in such a beautiful place, but I had never been to NC before. And, I've been so unaware of things since I've gone back to school (too busy) that I didn't even know I was going right into Mohicanland. We went to the Highland Games on Grandfather Mountain. We spent a night in a hotel outside Ashville, then camped out at Bear Den(?) campsite on one of the other mountains, I guess. But I didn't even realize where I was at until my brother-in-law jokingly suggested we stay at the Biltmore when we were looking for a hotel. My ears perked right up and then I realized where I was. We had no time to check out any Mohicanland scenery, but I have to admit that everytime I looked up at the overhangs or down a river I thought of scenes from LOTM. No, I'm not Scottish, my husband is. I'm Norweigan, but there was no Kjelstrup clan at the games!!
Any chance the next reunion can be the 2nd weekend in July? My husband won't go to NC for a Mohicanland reunion, but he would go back to the Highland games and they are always the 2nd weekend in July.
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richfed
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Posted - July 14 2009 : 08:52:34 AM
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Bear Den campground was the home base of the 2000 Mohican Gathering, Winglo ... you were RIGHT there, and VERY close to the opening/closing vistas, the ambush scene, and some of the waterfall/canoe stuff [at Linville Falls].
Like Fort Ticonderoga's annual reenactment, the Highland games is something that we always tried to plan AROUND,to help avoid conflicts. In any event, I am not sure there ever will be another Mohican Gathering. At this time, chances would seem slim.  |
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Posted - July 14 2009 : 5:34:13 PM
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Aww, Winglo - wish I had known you were going. Stephanie and I were at the games too (I was there camping from July 2 until getting home at 4AM this morning)! Would loved to have met ya!
I am happily back at work now to get some rest! |
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winglo
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Posted - July 18 2009 : 7:36:58 PM
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Oh, too bad, GG. Don't tell me you stayed right there on the grounds! People were really packed in there! My husband knew better than to even suggest we stay there.
It's really my fault I didn't tell anyone where I was headed. I was so out of it when my husband and brother-in-law were planning this that all I knew is we were heading south to some Highland Games. I honestly had SC in my head, but was too busy with coursework to even ask questions about exactly where we were going. Did you happen to see "Blessed Blend" perform or stop by their table offering cd's? They were really good. They're both Native American and Celtic. Very interesting blend of instruments and singing style. A kilt decorated with feathers is interesting, too! |
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winglo
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Posted - July 18 2009 : 7:39:49 PM
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Oops! Spoke too soon! GOOD NEWS!! There WILL be a next Gathering. See here: Gathering Plans
Thanks, Rich. I checked it out already.
Oh, and by the way. . .I did get to Linville Falls. |
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Obediah
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Posted - July 18 2009 : 9:36:47 PM
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Yes, Winglo - I have seen Blessed Blend the past three years or so at the Grandfather games. They are planning a CD with Albannach in the future which should be interesting. Did you get to see Albannach? I have been a huge fan of theirs for many years.
I have been going to the games for over 10 years - primarily for the music. My heritage is strongly Scottish and Scots Irish so I am in my element there. The calling of the clans to open the games is my favorite part. This year it had rained a good bit of the afternoon, so the mist that evening certainly framed the event!
Yep, Steph and I both camped on the side scross the street from the games - the MacRowdy side (as opposed to the MacDowdy side - earlier curfew is the only real distinction)...Steph for 4 days, me for 11 days. Gives one a renewed appreciation for indoor plumbing! |
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 4:27:50 PM
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I have been going to the games for over 10 years - primarily for the music. My heritage is strongly Scottish and Scots Irish so I am in my element there.
A couple of funny (ironic) things about the Scots and Scotch-Irish in America: evidently the Scotch-Irish didn't feel much kinship with the Scots. At least not enough to have any qualms about killing Patrick Fergueson at Kings Mountain or killing soldiers from the 71st Regiment of Foot, aka Fraser's Highlanders, at Cowpens. And the highlander/lowlander roles sort of got reversed on the frontier, at least in North Carolina.
Scotland County in eastern North Carolina is flat and was settled by many folks with a Scottish Highlander heritage. Western North Carolina is mountainous and was settled by many folks with a Scotch-Irish heritage from Ulster (I'm a WNC native). The Ulster Plantation was started mostly by Lowlanders re-settled by King James I.
So decendants of the Highlanders wound up in the swamps and decendants of the Lowlanders wound up in the hills.
Oh, and before anyone sees fit to comment on the difference between whiskey and people, to the great consternation of the Scots from Scotland the term "Scotch" is a historically correct term in long useage for the decendants of the Ulster Plantation in America.
To insist otherwise is revisionist history propagated by the Scots (I just love to argue about this). 
After all, these people started making "likker" from corn soon after they arrived so they certainly didn't need to reserve the term Scotch for whiskey.
Like I said, these people didn't agree on everything.
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 7:41:51 PM
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The Blessed Blend sounds like a great group! I plan on buying their one & only CD ASAP.
You're in luck, Obi. They released their 2nd c.d. on the 10th or 11th of July. I know it's not on their website yet, but if you contact them directly, I'm sure they can tell you how to get one. They also gave me a myspace address: www.myspace.com/theblessedblend.
GG, I did see Albannach and I like their music. But, they were very popular at the games and I don't like fighting for space and being squeezed in by lots of people. So, I like them better on a c.d. at home than live.
Interesting info about highlanders and lowlanders, Longrifle. Sounds like you have researched it a lot. You're not going to get any argument out of me about "Scotch" or "Scottish." Whatever they are, I married one. And when they get together for these events I just think they're all. . .well,. . .different.
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 7:45:31 PM
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| True, there were Highlanders in Eastern North Carolina, but we got rid of them after the Battle of Moore's Creek Bridge, Feb. 27, 1776. One was even Flora McDonald, who hid the Pretender after the '45. Why they sided with the British, I never understood. Upper South Carolina was almost totally Scotch-Irish. As was most of my family, except for a few fortunate ones who were French! |
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 9:02:50 PM
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You're not going to get any argument out of me about "Scotch" or "Scottish." Whatever they are, I married one. And when they get together for these events I just think they're all. . .well,. . .different.
LOL. Yeah, tell your husband I like to get picky about this one in a good natured way.....mostly because Scottish/Scots people are picky about it themselves and and it just drives them crazy that there's a group of people that call themselves Scotch, when the Scottish/Scots always reserve that term for whiskey, not people.
My stance on it is this: Directly from Scotland? Scottish or Scots is the proper term. By way of Ulster? Scotch is the proper term, as in "Scotch-Arsh," which is how it sounds when a southern Appalachian native says it.
Seriously though, I think history supports this:
"Call this war by whatever name you may, only call it not an American rebellion; it is nothing more or less than a Scotch Irish Presbyterian rebellion." - A Hessian Officer
Usefull insights: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotch-Irish_American
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 9:34:27 PM
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Upper South Carolina was almost totally Scotch-Irish. As was most of my family, except for a few fortunate ones who were French!
I'm guessing if they mixed with the Scotch-Irish they were likely Hugenots? |
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Obediah
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 10:45:12 PM
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Anybody who would drink Scotch would drink gasoline!
And, as Edward I (Longshanks) was rumored to have stated, "Scot-land: the trouble with Scot-land is that it is full of Scots!" |
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Posted - July 19 2009 : 11:30:06 PM
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I'm guessing if they mixed with the Scotch-Irish they were likely Hugenots?
The Huguenots quickly became Presbyterian once they got to South Carolina and mixed with the Scotch-Irish in religion, culture, communities, and government. Most Huguenots had come to America by way of England where they had lived for a few years, so this was nothing new for them. Soon even first generation Huguenots had become pastors in the Presbyterian Church. Only their nome de famille tells or their heritage. |
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