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Obediah
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richfed
Sachem
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 Posted - August 04 2009 : 06:51:46 AM
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| A bit over the top, don't you think? A terrorist targets innocents ... women & children ... THESE men were thinkers. Great thinkers. Or, am I losing my sense of humor? |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - August 04 2009 : 12:13:14 PM
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Oh, I agree with you completely, Sachem! My immediate reaction upon reading the caption under the painting was to become quite indignant.
No, these men were not cowards like terrorists are. No way.
Obi... this is not directed at you, btw. |
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halfbreed
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Posted - August 04 2009 : 10:08:38 PM
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.....
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SgtMunro
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 12:46:45 PM
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richfed said: A terrorist targets innocents ... women & children ... THESE men were thinkers.
I agree with you Sachem; to the British government, they were rebels, they were seditionists, they were enemies of the crown, they were even 'peasants with pitchforks' (as the character Cornwallis described them in The Patriot), but they were not terrorists. They may have destroyed/seized the property of Americans loyal to King George, tar & feathered their Tory bretheren, and killed Loyalists on the battlefield, but they never once condoned violence against women, children, the elderly and/or infirmed...
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Wilderness Woman added: No, these men were not cowards like terrorists are.
Right you are, WW. And if they access to airplanes back then, they wouldn't have stuffed them full of innocents and flew them into the sides of buildings either.
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halfbreed stated: One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.....
I'm sorry H-B, but that hackneyed statement, coined by some Left-Wing coffee table intellectual decades ago (in order to excuse the barbaric actions of Communist guerrillas worldwide, and all Left-Wingers will try to validate the poor behavior of their own kind), doesn't hold water with anyone who is intellectually honest. Freedom Fighters do not strap bombs to women and children and have them detonate the device in the middle of a crowded marketplace/school yard/church/etc. That is the action of a cowardly Terrorist, who doesn't have the 'stones' to face armed men in a stand-up gunfight (i.e. Islamo-Fascists, Marxist 'Revolutionaries', the IRA, etc. ad nauseum)
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 2:12:07 PM
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On the other side of the coin.
Toward the end of the Rev War, a band of Tories, or Loyalists if you will, disguised themselves as Cherokee and raided my grandfather, William Anderson's, house. He was 77 at the time. He was tomahawked and scalped, as was a young boy who worked for him, and their bodies thrown on a brush pile, probably with the intent of burning them. They did burn the house before leaving. My grandfather died, but somehow the boy didn't, and it is said that he lived to a ripe old age. I think this would qualify as terrorism, since the war, for them, was lost and there was nothing to gain but revenge, and the threat of more revenge. And they tried to lay the blame on the Cherokee, who were completely innocent in the matter. There were lots of similar acts in South Carolina, like Weymess burning a house with a woman and child in it, and the raids of Bloody Bill Cunningham. Now these were all Tories, but I feel sure there were similar actions undertaken by the Patriot side. It's just that the Patriots won, and thus wrote the history books.
One local historian and author was asked if the events depicted in The Patriot were as bad as they were shown, and he said no, they were much worse. |
"Les deux pieds contre la muraille et la tete sous le robinet" |
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Diana
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 5:51:03 PM
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Hi All:
Yeah, what about Tarleton? Should he have been tried for 'crimes against humanity?'
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Fitzhugh Williams
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 6:55:53 PM
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| No, I don't think so. The only real complaint against him was at the Waxhaws, when surrendering men were not granted quarter. He had his horse shot out from under him and was out of the action when all this happened. By the time he remounted and was in command again, it was all over. The problem was he took credit for the victory and all that went with it, so he got the blame as well. Weymess was much worse. And so were the Tory/Loyalist "militia". It has been said that "Light horse" Harry Lee's actions at Alamance were at least as bad as Tarleton's at the Waxhaws. But Lee's actions deprived Cornwallis of about 500 men he needed badly at Guilford Courthouse. It could have seriously changed that battle. So Lee is the hero, and Tarleton the villain. |
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 7:58:52 PM
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The Iroquois would certainly have something to say about George Washington being a terrorist.
Sgt Munro, I'll match wits with you anytime. All I hear is pissing and moaning from the rejectionist front that is the base of the Rebublican Party. Not any solutions to any issues. Just the same Rebublican talking points written by the RNC and handed to right wing hacks like the bloated Limbuagh,Beck and Hannity.
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Monadnock Guide
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halfbreed
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 9:53:36 PM
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Drill here drill now pay less....freedom not fear......zzzzzzzzz....
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SgtMunro
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Posted - August 05 2009 : 9:53:43 PM
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halfbreed said: The Iroquois would certainly have something to say about George Washington being a terrorist.
Well H-B, I'd be glad to compare the conduct of General Sullivan's men to that of the Iroquois who raided the Wyoming Valley; which by the way, is why General Washington ordered the retalitory expedition against them.
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halfbreed added: Sgt Munro, I'll match wits with you anytime.
You know where to find me son, just let me know when you are ready...
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halfbreed continued: All I hear is pissing and moaning from the rejectionist front that is the base of the Rebublican Party.
As opposed to the mindless pablum spewing forth from the mouths of the narcissistic adolescents, who constitute today's Democratic Party.
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halfbreed followed with this incomplete sentence: Not any solutions to any issues.
If you would actually listen to those shows, instead of depending on your 'seminar-caller' training, you would find that there are many solutions brought forth. Now they may not be ones that you agree with, or even like, but that is your problem.
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halfbreed then added: Just the same Rebublican talking points written by the RNC and handed to right wing hacks like the bloated Limbuagh,Beck and Hannity.
As opposed to the 'talking points' from Democrat hacks like Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and the mainstream media...
In Summary: Whenever you are ready to cross swords with me, just start by addressing any topic of your choosing, with a logical viewpoint, and back it with facts.
The gauntlet has been picked-up H-B, your move...
YMH&OS,
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Serjeant-Major Duncan Munro
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(The Black Sheep of the Black Watch)
"Nemo Me Impune Lacessit"
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Monadnock Guide
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Posted - August 06 2009 : 07:06:40 AM
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| That's what I thought hb, - run into something and you take a hike, - adios. |
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SgtMunro
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Posted - August 07 2009 : 08:28:42 AM
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Monadnock Guide said: That's what I thought hb, - run into something and you take a hike, - adios.
As you already noticed, MG, he simply went and changed the subject by posting on another thread. A standard Cultural-Marxist tactic when presented with logical and open debate (when they cannot quell such debate through coercion)
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Serjeant-Major Duncan Munro
Capt. Thos. Graham's Coy.
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(The Black Sheep of the Black Watch)
"Nemo Me Impune Lacessit"
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