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susquesus
Mad Hermit of the North Woods
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 Posted - February 01 2004 : 9:17:27 PM
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Do you think that Hawkeye and Cora or Alice and Uncas could have "hooked-up" without all of the shootin' and scalpin' that threw them together in the film's storyline? Say the boys rolled into Albany or the fort after a few weeks scoutin' and huntin' and ran into the girls around the cider barrel- any sparks? Were they destined to fall for each other or only attracted because of the mutual life and death situation they experienced?
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Theresa
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 Posted - February 02 2004 : 07:18:59 AM
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Good question.
Can't really say, but Cora and Alice were certainly in need of a hero and Hawkeye and Uncas fit the bill. |
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Carter
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Posted - February 02 2004 : 09:11:06 AM
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I don't think any of them would have "hooked up" had they not been thrown together. Hawkeye and Uncas believed that Alice and Cora were part of that "breed apart that makes no sense" and would have probably ignored them had they met around the cider barrel. Besides, did ladies such as Cora and Alice patronize the local pubs back then?  I doubt the four would have had an opprotunity to even meet. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - February 02 2004 : 12:59:58 PM
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I definitely agree with you, Carter.
Without those events and "adven-chas" in the wilderness, Cora would have convinced herself that Duncan was a man with enough good qualities to marry and eventually she would have accepted his proposal. With or without love. She would probably have lived a very conventional life as the wife of an officer in His Majesty's service, following him to various places if she could. She would have attended the usual social functions, dressed in her finest, but it all would have come to a screeching halt when the next war came along (the War for American Independence).
Things would have been very different for Alice as well. She would have lived, and possibly married another officer.
If Cora had run into Hawkeye at some place within her world, the "infatuation" might have been there for her part. However, I don't know that Hawkeye would have given her more than a second glance, because she was that "breed apart." Without the events in the forest... it just would not have clicked. |
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Wilderness Woman
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Posted - February 03 2004 : 08:22:31 AM
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Hey! Good point, Rich!
Susquesus! You're slipping! Are you ill?
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susquesus
Mad Hermit of the North Woods
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 Posted - February 03 2004 : 3:07:02 PM
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| I sprained my pollin' finger. No, actually I thought all the polls might be getting obnoxious. Maybe I should do a poll- are you for or against polls? Speaking of polls, I am glad that the media is toning down it's usage of exit polls in reporting elections. Apparently there was too much hubbub after one of the networks prematurely declared Gore the winner in the last presidential election. |
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Diane B.
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Posted - February 11 2004 : 8:59:45 PM
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Without those events and "adven-chas" in the wilderness, Cora would have convinced herself that Duncan was a man with enough good qualities to marry and eventually she would have accepted his proposal. With or without love.
Well...maybe yes, and maybe no. I keep remembering the exchange between Cora and Duncan where he poses the question, "With respect to friendship, isn't that a reasonable basis for a man and a woman to be married, that all else may grow in time?" Cora replies, "Some say that's the way of it..." The hesitancy in her voice, and the expression on her face, reveals that in her soul, she senses that there is something more. Had she married Duncan, it would have been a marriage of convenience and nothing more. Deep inside, Cora would have always longed for that "something more" - and possibly without knowing what that "more" was. There would have been an inexplicable emptiness, an aching, a longing, for something more that she could not put into words.
Also, once she met Hawkeye, she recognized that he was not actually a Mohican ("Where is your real family?"). I acknowledge that in Cooper's book, it was Alice who claimed Hawykeye's affections but in keeping with the storyline in Michael Mann's movie, I believe that Hawkeye and Cora were destined to be together. Must be the "hopeless romantic" in me coming to the surface! |
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rydergrl
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Posted - February 22 2004 : 5:41:06 PM
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Well...maybe yes, and maybe no. I keep remembering the exchange between Cora and Duncan where he poses the question, "With respect to friendship, isn't that a reasonable basis for a man and a woman to be married, that all else may grow in time?" Cora replies, "Some say that's the way of it..." The hesitancy in her voice, and the expression on her face, reveals that in her soul, she senses that there is something more. Had she married Duncan, it would have been a marriage of convenience and nothing more. Deep inside, Cora would have always longed for that "something more" - and possibly without knowing what that "more" was. There would have been an inexplicable emptiness, an aching, a longing, for something more that she could not put into words.
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Also, once she met Hawkeye, she recognized that he was not actually a Mohican ("Where is your real family?"). I acknowledge that in Cooper's book, it was Alice who claimed Hawykeye's affections but in keeping with the storyline in Michael Mann's movie, I believe that Hawkeye and Cora were destined to be together. Must be the "hopeless romantic" in me coming to the surface!
"I agree with some of what you say," Diane B. Oh heck, it must be the romantic in me as well, because I agree with all of what you say. Cora was not "in love" with Duncan. She knew deep down that there was "something" more. Something that was "stirring to her blood." Duncan didn't awaken those feelings in her. Had not Uncas came on the scene, Duncan probably would have had better luck with Alice.
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Lurking Huron4272
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Posted - March 07 2004 : 11:45:11 PM
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In the books, Hawkeye never got the woman. He was either too shy or too much the woodsy. I think that he was in love with "The Deerslayer", his longrifle.
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