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Brenda
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 Posted - June 17 2002 : 01:07:13 AM
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Hello!
I have never found another movie of the same era or type that I enjoyed as much as The Last of the Mohicans ... can anyone recommend some? What are your favorites?
Thanks!
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Posted - June 17 2002 : 2:33:26 PM
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Hi Brenda ... Welcome!
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Hello!
I have never found another movie of the same era ...
You know what? There are none! At least none that I can think of.
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or type that I enjoyed as much as The Last of the Mohicans ... can anyone recommend some? What are your favorites?
Thanks!
Now type is another story. The noble hero offering up and/or risking his life for what he believes in ... in many instances Freedom [with maybe a woman thrown in, for good measure!  ] ... My favorites, and all are released since The Last of the Mohicans would be:
- Rob Roy
- Braveheart
- Gladiator
Michael Mann needs to craft another ... rumor has it, that there is indeed a real Hollywood production in the works dealing with the F&I War ... that's all folks - that's all I can say!
Rich
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Theresa
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Posted - June 17 2002 : 5:29:14 PM
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Michael Mann needs to craft another ... rumor has it, that there is indeed a real Hollywood production in the works dealing with the F&I War ... that's all folks - that's all I can say!
Rich
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Not sure what you might be referring to here, Rich, but I've heard rumors of a movie being made with Robert Redford at the helm. Sound anything remotely like that of which you speak?
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Lathspell
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Posted - June 20 2002 : 11:15:08 PM
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Hi Brenda ... Welcome!
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Hello!
I have never found another movie of the same era ...
You know what? There are none! At least none that I can think of.
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or type that I enjoyed as much as The Last of the Mohicans ... can anyone recommend some? What are your favorites?
Thanks!
Now type is another story. The noble hero offering up and/or risking his life for what he believes in ... in many instances Freedom [with maybe a woman thrown in, for good measure! ] ... My favorites, and all are released since The Last of the Mohicans would be:
- Rob Roy
- Braveheart
- Gladiator
Michael Mann needs to craft another ... rumor has it, that there is indeed a real Hollywood production in the works dealing with the F&I War ... that's all folks - that's all I can say!
Rich
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There is one oldie that I can think of that is very good, having to do with the French and Indian war. It's about Rogers Rangers and their operations against the French, and It's called Northwest Passage... Stars Spencer Tracy... Excellent show, but like I say, it's in B&W and was made, methinks, about 1938. As far as Michael Mann making another movie having to do with the F & I War period, I really wish they would make one concerning, say, Simon Kenton and perhaps his goings on with Daniel Boone... (Alan Eckert has a terrific book available on this, called "The Frontiersman". Excellently written and VERY Well researched.....
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Scott Bubar
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Posted - June 21 2002 : 07:03:25 AM
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Northwest Passage was in Technicolor.
The director, King Vidor, went to great lengths to have the Ranger's uniforms blend in with the forest colors.
However, this was the early days of color and the Technicolor folks wanted eye-popping color, so they boosted the green to make the uniforms stand out. There was a bit of a struggle about it, as I recall.
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I have to agree with Rich that LOTM is unique. From this era, I also like The Patriot, but it's no LOTM.
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Lathspell
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Posted - June 22 2002 : 1:36:22 PM
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Northwest Passage was in Technicolor.
The director, King Vidor, went to great lengths to have the Ranger's uniforms blend in with the forest colors.
However, this was the early days of color and the Technicolor folks wanted eye-popping color, so they boosted the green to make the uniforms stand out. There was a bit of a struggle about it, as I recall.
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I have to agree with Rich that LOTM is unique. From this era, I also like The Patriot, but it's no LOTM.
~~Aim small, miss small.
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Lathspell
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Posted - June 22 2002 : 1:38:27 PM
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Yup, You're ab-so-loot-lee right... lol... I went down to the video store the day after I posted that and found the bugger., I had forgotten... !! (Still a great show... :).... )
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ChrisNC
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Posted - September 27 2002 : 11:58:52 AM
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It's not a movie, but a pretty good book set during the F&I war is Savage Wilderness, by Harold Coyle. Coyle is a pretty successful author of modern war fiction (technothrillers), but he has done a couple of Civil War books too.
It's been a couple of years since I read it, but I seem to recall three main characters. There was an exiled Highlander, a British officer, and a French officer. There was an indian too, but I don't recall if he go the same press as the others. The book perfectly complements the movie. You learn a lot about fighting a war during that period. There's also quite a bit of time spent on the siege of Ft. William Henry.
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Edmund McKinnon
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Some other movies on the Seven Years War/Pontiac's Uprising/RevWar are arry Lyndon(starring Ryan O'Neal)&The UnConquered(starring Gary Cooper).More recently,there is The Patriot(starring Mel Gibson).I would love to see somebody remake The UnConquered(and not just because I live in Pittsburgh).Another F&I movie "Jamie MacGilivray"by director John Sayles is also supposedly in the works.In addition,there are some good documentaries out there such as:"George Washington:The Unknown Years"&"When the Forest Ran Red:Washington,Braddock and a Doomed Army".Check it out at:www.paladincom.com
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SgtMunro
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Posted - October 03 2002 : 01:07:52 AM
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Barry Lyndon is at best a good first half of a movie (just like Kubrick's FMJ). I agree that a remake of the "Unconquered" would be good, but I would much rather see movies made of the Allan Eckert "Winning of America" Series. Some of my personal favorites in the War Drama genre include:
Zulu
Zulu Dawn
Gettysburg
The Rough Riders
The Four Feathers (both the original and 2002)
The Charge of the Light Brigade
55 Days in Peking
Khartom
LOTM (all 4 versions of it)*
Sharpe's Rifles
* I really like the BBC Televison version, it is so campy, an excellent beer, pizza and buddies movie (I love the converted M-1873 Springfields that some of the soldiers & indians used and the fact that Hawkeye looked like a rehash of Fess Parker in the 1950's "Davey Crockett")
As far as documentaries go:
Frontier; Legends of the Old Northwest
When the Forest Ran Red
Bushy Run
George Washington's First War (due 2003)*
Tales of the Gun; Guns of the British Army
Tales of the Gun; Early Guns
Balaclava; The Charge of the Light Brigade
* I prefer the original title "War for Empire", but it was changed to appease a bunch of the "wine & cheese" bluebloods down at the "icehouse" in the 'burgh. You know, the same people who, just like the old statement about pornography, can't tell you what history is but they know it when they see it.
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Fitz Williams
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Posted - October 04 2002 : 12:53:48 AM
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A good war scene was the battle of Borodino in the Russian version of "War and Peace". There was a panoramic sweep of the camera, which gave something of the immense nature of the battle. Most of the movie was a little dry, though.
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rydergrl
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Posted - April 12 2004 : 7:12:36 PM
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| I watched "The Patriot" for the first time last night on regular tv. It was a very good film, but alas, it is no LOTM. I like Mel Gibson, but he does not hold the same appeal for me as does DDL in LOTM, but that's just my opinion. |
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alikws
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Posted - April 13 2004 : 12:45:05 PM
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after dances with dollars^H^H^H^Hwolves came out a few others mostly made for turner/tbs came out in the early 90's... tecomeseh and broken chain werent too bad, others are son of the morning star, geronimo, and crazy horse [never saw]
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Ithiliana
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Posted - April 13 2004 : 3:42:44 PM
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| i vote dances with wolves and patriot... hidalgo was ok too... gladiator is definetly awesome... er... some more historical ones... gone with the wind... war and peace.. my fair lady is a good one :) |
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rydergrl
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Posted - April 15 2004 : 7:07:32 PM
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| Also, cbs aired a movie called "Stolen Women, Captured Hearts" several years ago. It stars Michael Greyeyes and Janine Turner. However, I don't know if it's available on vhs or dvd as of yet. |
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Graybeard Longhunter
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Posted - July 19 2004 : 3:10:17 PM
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I agree that there is no equal to the LOTM.
But Broken Chain is a decent made-for-cable movie essentially about the difficult decisions to be made by the Six Nations of the Iroqouis during the late 18th century as white settlers expanded into the New York frontier. It also shows the complex and fragile relationship that existed between the native tribes and their English allies as the American colonies rose up in rebellion against the crown.
Eric Schweig plays Thayendanega, the famous Iroqouis war chief known as Joseph Brandt who allied with the British during the Revolution and led a number of daring and bloody raids along the New York and Pennsylvania frontier.
His blood brother, Lohaheo, an intelligent and conflicted leader, tries in vain to keep his people neutral in the hope that it will preserve the Confederacy of the Six Nations and save the lives and land of his people in the face of total war.
After fighting against the French during the Seven Years War under the guidance of Sir William Johnson (Pierce Brosnan), an Englishman who genuinely admires the Iroquois, but who is only too eager to manipulate them for the purposes of the Crown, the Mohawks soon find themselves caught in the middle of the American Revolution, with both sides hoping to lure the powerful Confederacy to their cause.
While Lohaheo urges neutrality, Brant joins the British and fights with great ferocity against the Americans at Oriskany and Wyomissing. The two must face an uncertain future for their people and struggle to save a way of life whose existence is threatened by the people with and against whom they fight.
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Posted - July 19 2004 : 4:35:01 PM
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Originally posted by Graybeard Longhunter
I agree that there is no equal to the LOTM.
But Broken Chain is a decent made-for-cable movie essentially about the difficult decisions to be made by the Six Nations of the Iroqouis during the late 18th century as white settlers expanded into the New York frontier. It also shows the complex and fragile relationship that existed between the native tribes and their English allies as the American colonies rose up in rebellion against the crown.
Eric Schweig plays Thayendanega, the famous Iroqouis war chief known as Joseph Brandt who allied with the British during the Revolution and led a number of daring and bloody raids along the New York and Pennsylvania frontier.
His blood brother, Lohaheo, an intelligent and conflicted leader, tries in vain to keep his people neutral in the hope that it will preserve the Confederacy of the Six Nations and save the lives and land of his people in the face of total war.
After fighting against the French during the Seven Years War under the guidance of Sir William Johnson (Pierce Brosnan), an Englishman who genuinely admires the Iroquois, but who is only too eager to manipulate them for the purposes of the Crown, the Mohawks soon find themselves caught in the middle of the American Revolution, with both sides hoping to lure the powerful Confederacy to their cause.
While Lohaheo urges neutrality, Brant joins the British and fights with great ferocity against the Americans at Oriskany and Wyomissing. The two must face an uncertain future for their people and struggle to save a way of life whose existence is threatened by the people with and against whom they fight.
All the above suggestions are great.
Another Eric Schweig movie: Follow The River |
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UncasLover13
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Posted - July 19 2004 : 8:32:58 PM
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1) The Patriot
2)Braveheart
3)Dances With Wolves |
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Graybeard Longhunter
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Posted - July 19 2004 : 9:15:35 PM
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Did anyone see Eric Schweig as Claw in one of the Hawkeye TV series episodes.
That series starred Lee Horsley as Hawkeye and Lynda Carter as Mrs. Shields.
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Posted - July 22 2004 : 12:44:21 PM
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If you can find it (and I have no suggestions unless you have a Canadian friend) there's a Canadian made for TV movie called DIVIDED LOYALTIES. It covers a lot of the same ground as BROKEN CHAIN, but is highlighted by a fairly good Oriskinay sequence and performances by Tantoo Cardinal as Molly Brant and Chris Wiggins as Sir William Johson. Wiggins wears a reproduction of Johnson's gold laced red coat that is really cool, but unfortunately also keeps his distinctive beard (I think this was filmed while he was starring in the "Friday the Thirteenth" series, so he may not have had a choice). I've tried to find an online source for this without success, but I know some American reenactors who were extras in it and have copies, so it's out there somewhere.
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Posted - July 26 2004 : 1:06:37 PM
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| Last of the mohicans is still the all time favorite, but Legends of the Fall (Brad pitt, Anthony Hopkins)and based on the book by Jim Harrison is also good, if you like epic drama...also i see Dances with Wolves has been mentioned,a good effort by Kevin Costner. |
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rydergrl
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Posted - July 27 2004 : 12:30:05 AM
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Last of the mohicans is still the all time favorite...
LOTM has all the qualities of a truly great movie. |
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42ndNCO
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Posted - July 27 2004 : 10:05:45 AM
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I thought a good one pertaining to early native experiences was Black Robe. Good adaptation of a novel by Brian Moore (because he also wrote the screenplay) and directed by Bruce Beresford (Driving Miss Daisy).
It's the story of a 17th c. Jesuit priest and his young companion and their journeys through the Quebec wilderness. Not a warm fuzzy film by any means, but accurate in the situations and well acted by a cast with no big name stars.
I get cold just thinking about watching them walking along that frozen lake! Brrrr... |
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Posted - January 13 2005 : 10:17:32 AM
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| The Black Robe, that movie was ok. |
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